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SACRIFICE -- FROM PAGAN TO BLOODLESS,
FROM HARSH GOD TO ALL-BENEVOLENT

by Karl Roebling

Jesus and his all-benevolent yet omnipotent God
overcame the sacrifice/scapegoat system —
which is the same as the carnal (material)
mind (alias the devil) system, based as it is on a harsh deity

The concept of a terrible God or power is at the root of all humankind's problems. Tribal people fearfully sacrificed to the death-dealing but unthinking nature forces, spirits, gods or god -- to head off murdering.

Later, when the powers were believed to have a reason -- man's abundant sins -- for killing. This led to scapegoat-type sacrificing where the sinners picked anyone but their guilty selves to die.

Let's see below how the sacrificial concepts and practices developed by stages into their current complexity and centricity even in Christianity. That package constitutes all evil or the carnal (material, "enmity against" the real God) structure and operations. Jesus -- instead of ratifying it as many believe he did -- overcame it in order to free us, being bloodied in battle in the course of winning on our behalf.

From the beginning, thunder and lightning terrified tribal groups huddling in caves for protection against the death-imparting sky forces which -- no doubt about it -- were deadly. ("Thor" -- seen even in fairly recent European history -- is a lightning and thunder "god.") Also ranking high among the forces which early (and later) humans feared most, were volcanos, harsh winters and floods.

At first, the forces weren't considered to be "thinking beings" with whom one could work out a "deal." Gradually, though, human characteristics were given to the array of mainly nature forces, spirits or gods. Tribal priests, shamans and witch doctors, claiming to be the only ones able to contact the mystical entities, invented religions to assuage them (and to elevate the priests).

As humanity settled on fertile plains and began to grow crops and animals for food, harsh winters had to be placated. Too, spring floods from snowmelts meant they had to deal with river gods. Violent summer rains impacted herds, crops and people. Something was causing the problems. Religions struggled with how to make deals with the forces, spirits, gods and goddesses.

"Feeding the appetite" -- the first approach to murderous forces
The frightening entities obviously killed until satisfied, after which spring came, or the thunder-and-lightning storm passed, or the volcano simmered down. The "logical" approach to obtaining abatement was to "feed" and thus partially sate the appetite of the forces by preemptively killing crops, animals or humans before or during religious rituals, and offering them. "Here's what you want, don't kill us, here's our increment of dead things, we're on your side, go somewhere else." Of course, none of this worked, yet concepts and activities were expanded not abandoned.

Forces were evil, with good only when placated, then later both evil and good
At first the forces were all-evil, with any "good" only a temporary abatement of evil. But today, most believe Deity is both evil and good, with evil the ultimate to keep humans behaving, and sacrifices -- particularly the sacrifice of Jesus -- easing evil, leaving good.

How "dealing" developed -- the forces became reasoning
As "gods" developed (in our minds), they were thinking (at least part of the time), not just chaotic. And thus, deals could be worked out for protection.

Over time, tribal religions (and the later cultured religions), developed with the assumption that deadly forces or even the One God had reasons for killing -- and thus deals could be worked out. Tribes were sinful -- murdering, lusting, stealing. From this, guilty consciences accepted the priests' sin-imputing "law of sin followed by death from above" (which is built into every human psyche anyhow). Tribes bought the idea. The forces, spirits, gods -- even the later One God -- were depicted as accusing, and then demanding punishment. "Righteous murder" (a super-dichotomy of the carnal mind) by deities became central.

"Paying demands" -- the second approach to the murderous forces
Paying punishment demands was more specific and definite than the former guesswork, but punishees still faced the usual death-monster requirement of death.

But so what? Just throw the sinners into the murder machine, right?

No? No -- all were sinners. But all agreed on one thing -- get someone else.

"Get someone else"-- the ingenious plan for who gets punished
Of course, the king rose and said, "The buck stops here. I'm head of this tribe, so I will offer myself and die." No? No again. The kings said to hell with all that, get someone else. (Frazer's Golden Bough has some kings killed to "save" their people -- voluntarily and involuntarily. But mainly, the historic killing or flagellating is in rituals only, the king then getting credit for "saving" his people.)

The whole tribe wouldn't pay (do you want a revolution?). And the priests of the very system they invented weren't going to pay. "Get someone -- anyone -- else."

Therefore, prisoners from other tribes, also defectives, maybe some civil prisoners for tribal offenses, were caught up in human death-blood sacrifices.

The guilty don't pay
In the sacrifice-for-guilt scapegoat system, please note that the guilty don't pay!

Human scapegoats loaded with sins of the tribe are killed to carry the sins into the Great Beyond.

In an old Israelite ritual, bits of cloth representing tribal sins were stuck to an actual goat before it was driven off a cliff to die. Or a priest could impart the sins to the goat. In all scapegoating primitive or complex, innocence or guilt is not a factor. In a Kirk Douglas movie about the French Army in WWI, a man chosen by lot from the bottommost rank paid the price for a crime.

This type of system was supposed to pay and cleanse -- but could do neither.

"Praise"-- the third approach to the murderous forces
In addition to feeding appetites and paying punishment demands, a third approach was to praise in the sense of, "Look, Big Guy, you are great, and furthermore, we're on your side -- killing. We're flattering by imitating, bringing you dead things -- and we expect protection."

In praise -- mainly harvest -- festivals, a portion of the hard-won crops and herds was burned in total waste, after some first going to the priests.

There had to be the hypocrisy of only pretending to like the gods and system.

Of course, sometimes there's thanksgiving or praise for bounty, with no death. Today we see some praise for the all-good God to whom we are slowly waking. But if the Deity is seen as both good and evil, the praise -- although often sincere -- is still somewhere in the old system.

Next, perfection was required in substitutes
Since people brought their worst crops, animals or even humans to be destroyed -- and since that poor quality might be the thing keeping the system from "working" -- perfection became the requirement. (This also improved the quality of the priests' cut.)

 

Innocence was the next requirement
Since perfection didn't stop hard winters, etc., innocence was tried in human sacrifices. Virgins and children were ritually tossed into rivers or volcanos, slain on altars. Even into European times, a baby might be dropped into the hole for the centerpole where a home was being built. This would "protect" by saying, "Hey, we have already sacrificed, we're on your side, we're friends, not foes. So there's no need for more murdering -- you bloody god or spirit."

"Acts of God"
We still call awful natural disasters "acts of God" in contracts (and still say God committed genocide in the Flood, because He didn't like human behavior). But nature forces are not gods or goddesses, have no reasoning powers.

Most deities of old weren't perceived as creator, father or mother, but just remote and often mean as hell, relaxing only after inflicting disasters and killings. Some of these old positions are still in modern creator, father and mother concepts of God.

Some "God says" rules were codified on earth by "the law," laws, and religious doctrines, the breaking of which could bring destructive "acts of God" -- or death from the religions.

The central carnal mind "mechanism" of "the law of sin [followed by death from God]" mischaracterizes God, and victimizes in the name of religion. In healing the man sick of the palsy, Jesus first removed that negative pin-down package of thought from the man's mind, then said that was the key to divine healing (Lk. 5:18,20,23; Mat 9:2,5).

Psychology's tripartite psyche in action
Some psychologists have said the primitive god-system with guilt, supervision-accusation, and fear of punishment is built inside of us (and is not "out there" somewhere). The low-life libido entices the little ego into naughty thoughts and acts. Then the all-seeing all-knowing superego pounces! It torments the guilty ego with accusations, then extracts payments (this last according to the distinguished Dr. Edmund Bergler). Hmm. Well, it's something to think about.

Anselm's (c. 1100) interpretation of the Cross popular today
The super-scapegoat voluntary sacrifice of the King in order to pay demands of a punishing God and save the people, is central to today's popular concept of the Cross. Instead, Jesus overturned the ancient sacrifice/scapegoat system.

Jesus had disciples, taught a secret (Mat. 13:35) message that healed (13:15), later said we didn't get it all (Jn. 16:12), promised the Spirit would teach his full message (Jn. 14:26) -- and Revelation (10:7) speaks of the "mystery" of God being at last ended. However, if Anselm's theory were right, there would have been no need for any of that, because the ancient system was understood by all in ancient times -- and since.

The world had no reason to attack Early Christians if they were in line with its sacrifice/scapegoat system -- but instead they were brutally attacked. They were engaged in overcoming evil, in doing Jesus' works, in at least trying to "raise the dead" -- things which flew in the face of what the world believes to be the ultimate power, death (and death woven in with God).

Didn't Jesus break our "prison" (Isa. 42:7; 61:1; Lk. 4:18) of death? And start us doing his works (Jn. 14:12), in his victorious, not victimized, steps?

Jesus underwent death "that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil," and thus "deliver them which through fear of death were all their lifetimes subject to bondage" (Heb. 2:14-15).

Jesus overcame the entire sacrifice/scapegoat system, but we reinstalled it
Jesus on the Cross is said by religions to have been a super-example of the ancient sacrifice/scapegoat system, when instead he was overcoming that entire system and its death-dealing-God concept. Jesus' all-good God heals sin. His Deity at-one (Jn. 17:20-23) with its spiritual creation (Paul said "not seen" and "invisible," but sometimes "clearly seen") overcomes and replaces death. We each have a spiritual identity in Spirit's image "hid with Christ in God" -- which we will progressively find and use as we "see him as he is" (I Jn. 3:2). This pulls us out of the carnal (material) mind's death-trap.

So why did God have Jesus show us something on the Cross that looks like the sacrifice/scapegoat system when the intent was the overcoming of that system?

For good reasons. One, the population could mentally connect with it (and still does). Then further growth can occur (despite many theologies that block growth).

Two, only by taking the undeserved blows from the world (not from God), and going to the bottom of death (Eph. 4:9-10; Acts 2:31) was Jesus in position to overcome all evil.

The death phase was passive on his part, the Resurrection active -- overcoming all evil one time. He "abolished death" (II Tim. 1:10).

Three, in order for us to get out, we must know every aspect of the carnal mind's package of all evil, and what Jesus did, and how we too overcome evil, as he instructed us to do. We don't do the parts he did "once for all," but everything else.

Jesus change character?
That Jesus murders in the end-time would mean that Jesus Christ was not the same "yesterday, today and for ever," and that the fountain could, after all, give forth both sweet water and bitter. The sword in Jesus' mouth (Rev. 19:15a) is the Word "sharper than any twoedged sword" (Heb. 4:12) that he teaches but we don't yet grasp, that harmlessly, beneficially yet definitely divides, ministers, heals, changes, and leads to the end of all evil. (The dead flesh shown in Revelation is from the carnal mind's warring, blamed on God.) Can anyone imagine Jesus as a world terrorist and mass murderer?

Jesus' God is all-good, yet omnipotent, not weak, revealing a higher venue, healing sin and ending evil.

A deity that kills is either the ancient 100 percent savage force or the Genesis 3:5 "good and evil" God, with evil as the ultimate power.

Unchangeable, all-benevolent, invariably helpful God
When starting from the divine Kingdom standpoint, and our spiritual identity, we find a path on which to work our way out of our human-being "natural" (or dust-created) man's sins (even beneficially smelt them out if necessary, as in Malachi 3:2-3) in front of the loving God. We climb as we complete rungs here and in hereafters.

If only pardoned (we are, but more), we still have our sins and sinful nature; however, our higher identity shown by Jesus harmlessly cleans and transforms us in time.

Do we really want to unload our sins onto Jesus-and have a harsh God beat and kill him in acts which patently are "enmity against God" (Rom. 8:6a, 7a)?

Progressive Bible
Doesn't the Bible show us progression from primitive concepts of powers and deities and their related religious practices, to the all-good God with overcoming power in our hands, also harmless but definite transformations for us up and out, and evil's end?

Human sacrifice (see Isaac) changed to animal sacrifice (the ram). The smearing of blood on the doorposts showed an advance in human concepts in the direction of a protective God-concept. We might connect using old ideas, but are then led progressively higher. After honoring the Passover at the Last Supper, Jesus then went out and overcame the entire sacrifice/scapegoat carnal mind enmity-against-God antiChrist (harming Jesus) system. Jesus bled in battle to free us.

And he told us to do his works (Jn. 14:12).

The lamb of God
But doesn't the "lamb of God" refer to Jesus as a super-Lamb offered in a sacrificial blood-and-death connection to God?

The old sense of the symbol exists, and people connect there even today. But there's a higher sense of that symbol, and progress in that direction is expected. The "natural" mind (I Cor. 2:14) doesn't at once grasp steps of higher meanings, but they exist, and -- importantly -- enable us to enter the paths of overcoming.

We're supposed to put on the new, put off (harmlessly) the old, work in the "new and living way" (Heb. 10:20) (not death way). Jesus took "away the first, that he may establish the second" (Heb. 10:9). There isn't any death in God.

The Lamb Jesus presented overcomes by perfect purity from above -- by the Light that clears out darkness in the bloodless "warfare" of the Spirit.

Jesus' taking on of the whole death-system package is the deepest personal sacrifice in all time. His Resurrection is the greatest overcoming in all time, and is intended to lead us out.

Christians still have their sins in various quantities and depths, and sinful natures in varying degrees, but they have an overcoming-way out.

We keep thinking the ball is in his court, and he is going to do something. In fact, he's done something, and the ball has long been in our court -- yet he works in conjunction with us to accomplish the tasks he assigned to us. (Jn. 14:12; Mat. 10:7-8; Mk. 16:17-18; Acts 1:8; Rev. 2:7, 11, 17, 26; 3:5, 12, 21; 21:4, 7.)

Evil reacts when death itself is threatened
When we proceed against death itself, evil kicks up a storm.

In the Bible, God says, "I create evil," but that means God's all-benevolent pure presence arouses evil to fury. That pattern is seen throughout the end-time.

In Revelation, vials of angelic perfection that eliminate evil, are poured onto earth, but evil reacts so violently that it seems even to John that the vials instead hold plagues from God's wrath. Evil likes to blame God. But God doesn't send plagues, He heals them; doesn't change from Love to wrath. The wrathful "god" is the carnal mind, the devil cast from heaven "having great wrath" (Rev. 12:12).

Evil sends every woe, but as we are "labourers" in conjunction with the completely clean God, all evil is ended by Revelation 21:4, 7.

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